Re: Off Topic: AAWS

I would recommend that you or anyone else contact 212-870-3400 & ask for Darlene Smith,

Fax 212-870-3003 or email: smithd@aa.org

 

I am just forwarding the information and not too happy about it either.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:05 PM, HB Gill <hb.gill@gmail.com> wrote:

I find that I have have a hard time resenting anything that I don't take seriously...

Remember expectations are pre-meditated resentments...that helps me!

As for the whole AAWS thing....well, the Big Book is a great boon to humanity and I try to pass it on where-ever and when-ever I can...and it's easy enough to find on the Web by just sticking AA Big Book into any search engine.

 

Keep coming back,

Hal

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM, HK <helen.king.s@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for your share Bill Wilson friend, thanks for reminding me
not to take anything but my sobriety seriously. Glad you still share
with people newer than you, it is a daily reprieve I have and some
work out better than others. I remember the fear that it would be dull
and boring not drinking - I think it was my first realisation about
how little I knew. Sobriety is not dull for me now, something new to
learn every day.

On Feb 11, 3:11 pm, Bill Wilsonfriend <bwilsonfri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I came to AA I was very sad and cried whenever I talked to my sponsor.
> I was certain that my life was forever ruined and the best I could hope for
> was a dull grey life of not drinking.  What I discovered was that I was very
> self-centered, and my sponsor encouraged me to understand that everyone else
> in the room had screwed up as much or worse than me and that I was taking
> myself way too seriously.  As I worked the Steps with him, he recommended
> various things for me to do to get over my self-centered seriousness.  I ran
> for coffemaker, I stayed after the meeting to fold chairs, I shared what
> little experience I had with newcomers newer than me.  In other words,
> I joined AA....I didn't just come to meetings.  And I guess I found out that
> there's joy in our shared plight and that laughing at myself always trying
> to look good was one of the keys to freedom.  The Book says we have "an
> appalling lack of perspective"--Rule 62, which helps me to me laugh at
> myself, helps me broaden my perspective when I'm getting too focused on
> self.
>
> Does that make sense, Trev?  Thanks.
>

> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Trev <trevorais...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What is " My sponsor taught me ""Rule 62"" very early on"?
> > Trev
>
> > On Feb 11, 1:28 am, Bill Wilsonfriend <bwilsonfri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Not sure how relating an AA joke in response to a question is
> > patronizing,
> > > HK.  And there is a lot of hope and experience in that joke.  When I was
> > a
> > > newcomer, I thought that everything I thought was true....and I thought
> > > everything was about me.  My sponsor taught me Rule 62 very early on, and
> > it
> > > one of the attitudes that allowed me to work the Steps that saved my
> > life. I
> > > got over being terminally serious when I learned to laugh and to laugh at
> > > myself.
>
> > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:40 AM, HK <helen.kin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi all,
>
> > > > Just to put my concerns along with Mikewestvale and Bill. It seems
> > > > that this subject has lead Connell and Bwilsonfriend to appear on the
> > > > site with their first posts not of experience or hope or strength but
> > > > with rather forthright and patronising directions by my reading. Are
> > > > they here to stay sober and carry the message to other suffering
> > > > alcoholics? It would be good to read a share of their own experience,
> > > > own stregth etc.
>
> > > > There are many of us round the world and the internet helps me stay
> > > > sober, I pray that the AAWS and GSO realise that this is a way that
> > > > carries the message of AA.
>
> > > > On Feb 9, 8:50 pm, mikewestvale <mikewestv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 9, 12:54 pm, mikewestvale <mikewestv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 10:26 am, Connell <jcon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Dear Bill,
> > > > > > > Let's not do this in a public forum. I've already stated my point
> > of
> > > > > > > view on this.
> > > > > > > I'm sorry if I offended you; I didn't mean to.
> > > > > > > Warm regards, Connell
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 9, 4:54 am, Bill Karpus <bkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Connell M.,
>
> > > > > > > > If you are such an informed and dedicated member can you tell
> > me
> > > > why Just
> > > > > > > > For Today was shut down and why AA Online (
> > > >http://www.aaonline.net/dailythought/) has been threatened with legal
> > > > action
> > > > > > > > by "OUR" AAWS???
>
> > > > > > > > Await you answer.
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks, Bill
>
> > > > > > > > P.S From my experience AAWS seems to show little interest
>
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Connell <jcon...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > May I suggest a little discretion and restraint? You're
> > accusing
> > > > > > > > > Darlene of negative intentions based on your personal,
> > subjective
>
> > > > > I pushed a wrong button and sent nothing sorry.
>
> > > > > I feel like Bill we have a legitimate concern over this type of
> > > > > stonewalling.
>
> > > > > As well I see no reason to take the topic to personal emails as it is
> > > > > a vital issue that concerns many members and should concern a lot
> > > > > more. Sweeping these things under a rug  is not the answer.
>
> > > > > If you have some information why this has occurred why not inform us
> > > > > Cornell?
>
> > > > > Would appreciate your comments.
>
> > > > > Mikewestvale- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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